DevHub Live 44 - Blockchain should be part of your tech stack

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   hey welcome welcome back to another edition of devhub live uh I am really excited about this episode because uh we're going to dive into blockchain as a tech stack and uh I'm so ready for this I've been planning this for weeks was waiting for a time when we had no guest I have no guest so we're going to do that uh as you can see I'm actually so excited that I'm actually standing I'm moving around we got things ready to go I have my projector lens set up as well

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   we can draw stuff we can talk about all kinds of stuff it's going to be a fun episode and I really encourage you to ask questions or whatever else but the goal of this time and the reason why I'm doing this episode like this is because we're at a point now where crypto's becoming a little bit more mainstream the terms of web 3 and what that is is becoming a bit more mainstream we're seeing it not just in I'm a US citizen not just in the US but also across the

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   globe and other countries as well and it's a good time to remind everyone of what is actually available to start building and what can you actually start to do on blockchain so we're g to kind of talk that through and I really want to kind of you know can take some audience questions if you have them but this is something where like I've I just really want to dive into the developer side of all of this so let's have some fun let's kind of go through all of this

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   and let's kind of start at the beginning and talk about how we can start to build using blockchain so this episode really again is geared towards all kinds of Builders not just web 3 so to me like we're at this inflection point and this inflection point really is about saying can we start to take pieces of web 3 and start to put it into what any other product instead of thinking just always crypto first it we start to think about can this become part of my

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   larger infastructure so some things that we want to talk about here is it's not about crypto hype this is not about trying to just capture value this is really much more about can we actually Leverage The blockchain for what it is what it can do what it can't do and start to build products around that and that includes again stuff in AI as well as just general everyday products so

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   let's kind of just set some groundwork a little bit of what we're actually going to do here one is I don't want this to be just about the concept of like nfts and tokens and it's all about uh value and everything else there I want it to be much more about uh it's this you know blockchain is this tamperproof log book right it is a ledger and there are things that we can do there but it's more than just that it's the smart contracts it's the

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   other pieces that go into this infrastructure that can start to fit to maybe what you're building so let's start there and let's actually jump into what I would consider here the first topic which is it's just infra and for me really like you need to understand that when we say that it's just infrastructure it is really no different than you know going out signing up for an AWS account and putting your stuff on a server there except now maybe you have

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   a one-time fee versus monthly you have much more control you're able to do stuff that is permissionless which we'll talk about we'll jump into stuff about like what is composability actually mean how does composability fit into all of this and why is that actually important for what we're trying to do here so couple different things here I would never instruct anyone to build their entire app on like Excel like a spreadsheet right because one

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    it's very limiting your audience is going to be small people who are just comfortable using that it's a weird way to do a product I think that also could now be said about like being pure blockchain okay I think when you say I'm only putting stuff on chain and Only leveraging The Ledger aspect of blockchain you are limiting yourself into what you can build what you're doing but if you think about it

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    as part of your product now it transforms what you're trying to do so here's how we think about it right so let's say you're a coffee company and you're selling your coffee beans all around the world well this is kind of like this is an older one older example that has kind of been around before but again think about like what goes into being a coffee company you have Paper Trails right you're going to have people you know log books and email exchanges

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    and you're going to have all of these different things you're going to have to go through audits audits in different countries different borders all these different pieces here that uh make Logistics complicated but what if you then made a singular product that was able to do all that tracking verify make sure that those you know what was said in that log book is true simplify the auditing process by

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    putting everything on chain so the way it goes is you can then start to have every checkpoint from Farm to port to you know even to the actual coffee shop checking in and you can see that trail of who handled the different things when were those beans first picked you know when were they actually distributed all of that stuff and now it opens up a couple different things one if you

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    wanted to make a consumer side you wanted to give insight to and users which is your coffee drinkers you could do that might not be overly appealing and I don't know how many people besides some coffee nerds who are actually going to care about that but as a coffee distributor now being able to have one area which is is absolute proof everything is checking into that it really changes again the aspect of what goes into your business in theory it should simplify things it should lower

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    your cost it should provide better insight into what actually is there and that's just by simply implementing The Ledger part of blockchain so again now you can start to say look if I had this setup and I'm now logging all these different checkpoints I can also do other things too I could have Smart contracts built into that that allow for the release of funds upon checkpoint hey this delivery got made this got checked in this has been authenticated there you go that payment

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    is released it's automated there's no more worrying about you know making sure invoices are paid things like that uh it simplifies that process it also allows those who maybe uh working in different situations where banking is more difficult uh it's again simplifies all of those parts of it so now you have all of that the other side of it is as a product like you want to be able to have insights and having insights that are really clear and that

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    are really beneficial to your company into maybe people who are using your product comes down to like something as simple as can I extract the right data from this and now I could because I've not been able to track how long did it take from the go from the farm to the port we have all this actual proper check-in information it's not just if somebody miss something we're kind of a limit we still need the human interaction you still have like the app or whatever like the beans don't check

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    themselves in obviously but like this is now verifiable where you know exactly when it happened maybe then because and got released all of that type of stuff so it's phase one and then you can start to see how that blooms into hopefully a bigger product let's again let's let's also just take a step back with this too that like in this example here I'm trying to hit a couple different

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    areas with something very simple as just immutable Ledger of like hey dispute resolution I never received those beans oh well they were checked in here at this state this was verified this payment was released oh I didn't get paid I didn't this invoice didn't come through all of that could start to get eliminated which in the long run actually saves money so now it could hopefully bring some cost down whatever that might be and now hopefully again it adds to improving the bottom line for

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    all parties involved okay so that's just like one part when you start to think about infra the smart contract piece is really important too because then in the smart contract piece I can start building in all kinds of logic that I would normally have except I don't have to worry about the interaction of it right the proof of what happened is there we are relying on the law of code to execute on that and so as long as those proper conditions

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    are met and your logic is sound then the contract can handle that all for you and you eliminate again possibly Bad actors again this is not a perfect system but you have to eliminate some Bad actors you have to eliminate situations where you may have trouble where I can't get particular payments out things that get missed all of that stuff so we start to eliminate that and again I I want to hopefully emphasize to people who are thinking about this as a product is that

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    you know you can pick and choose of where this all fits in so now I can still have my front end hosted wherever I can have a mobile app I can have whatever I maybe need I could build it into different Hardware so it could run on my you if I have scanners and I have waist scales right it's all just code I can just still build an API that connects to this and still does all that

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    so now something goes on the scale it gets weighed it gets logged everything is there it starts to change how you think about where your checks and balances actually are for something as logistic like this we also have this even on a smaller scale so now if you just think of where your product is and like what things you need to prove to someone yeah like the ticketing one is always thrown out there right like I can do tickets and sure like that's an obvious one but

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    we can take it even a step further right of like where now if I were able to put you know just something as simple as like a loyalty card on there right maybe my gym membership is built into that and the reason why maybe that's useful is because now there is immutable proof of you know the times that I checked in or if I earn certain points or all that type of stuff and then the composability part mean means that someone else can come build on top of that so this is

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    where the Synergy of having multiple products or multiple Partnerships becomes really interesting and it really saves on development time too so if you ever built something at Enterprise level let's say You're Building A loyalty program for a gym it's not just like oh all right I'm going to throw together a database I'm going to store this I'll build some apis that people can connect to sure whatever but then like you know if I want to bring in a partner

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    I have to make sure that like do I have the right stuff for them to actually connect correctly do I have the setup for them to authenticate what kind of data am I serving for them I'm now M maintaining an API for them that maybe I don't want to keep maintaining but if I do it on chain and now the data is essentially publicly available now I can take that I can say to that like maybe Juice Bar Next Door hey you can combine

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    your loyalty program with our loyalty program and provide rewards because it's all there and now it simplifies that process and it's a different Paradigm of trying to build it's not so like closed Source it is now something like where um you know right now everyone is like so concerned all the time of like having these Moes right like you have a moat and like the reality of like your MO is

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    that you know your Moes are getting destroyed they're getting destroyed by AI they're getting destroyed by all these different other things of accessibility what whatever else but for you as a product Builder if you can start to be a little bit more open and rethink how you perceive your product and how you perceive the architecture of it it's a very different setup so I I think this is the first thing where you know if you are stepping outside of what you're trying to build in a traditional

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    sense and think about the properties of blockchain and smart contracts you could really rethink the overall infrastructure uh of of your product and I also think too part of like what is important here is going to be your generalized like cost and everything else because I think that something that for any developer any product Builder really is super important but we're going to get to costs and all that stuff just in a minute

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    okay so all right we just had a question so why is there a pen and marker don't worry we're going to get there everything will be solved okay so if people are curious about that I will absolutely we will get to that in just a moment all right so how do you get started and I I think getting started here is really simpler than it has to be simpler than I think most people try to make it

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    out to be right so like right now you start thinking about like I need to have have uh I need to have something set up where I am basically having to build a full onchain product and I'm going to disagree with that I'm say look you can make it really simple you can take one component of it one piece so starting simple so maybe it's something as simple as again log in pieces of information to chain that you think are worthwhile and that need that could be there

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    permanently the other part of it is that you could do something where again I can start to use some abstraction and Leverage The Chain without having to go you know fully into it so starting simple is maybe something as easy as building a course app so let's actually let me talk a little bit about building like an educational product and kind of what that looks like as starting simple on chain okay so this

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    is where this is where it goes see my hand here okay so this this is my course okay so I have a course that's online okay and so from here what is the next piece is now is like I need to start being able to allow my students to verify so I have all my students we'll make some little people here there we go hello they want to learn so now they come in and they want to take my course after they take my course and

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    again this could be in real life this could be fully online whatever it might be there needs to be proof of how they took it well I could just send them a PDF right of like a certificate but that doesn't really work because that's easily modifiable there's no real proof there or whatever else right so uh you know again they could I could have a just a database somewhere right but like what if I go out of business what if I no longer want

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    to run this what if things happen life right so I move on and so now all of those students are left without sufficient proof that they took the course so here's how we make it simple okay all of this is still web two right so here we go right Web Two all this is still web two but now I could have right I could have my blockchain and now I can list all the scores if they they completed or not things like that so now I

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    have a much better experience and all I've done is my course is still fully web to right I still it's on maybe it's online maybe it's in person whatever it might be uh and that doesn't have to change alls I've added in is something like this where now they can always go and verify and this is like a super basic example but this is something that again I think for people who are building uh it's a great way to start to

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    integrate yourself into web 3 and not just because I want you just to use build on web 3 like I I I want to really emphasize here that I'm not saying build on web 32 just for the sake of doing it because it's actually a better outcome okay it's a better outcome because here's here it is again let's think about what goes into normally having this data if I have a course okay so if if I have a course and I do the traditional way everything is is web to

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    I'm going to have my database okay here's my little fancy database right make it looks like that this is my database now that could be any web 2 provider doesn't matter I don't pick and choose but this is now going to be a monthly cost right so fine that's that might be fine it could be as small as maybe five bucks a month it doesn't matter you know the the actual cost of it is irrelevant what's important here

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    is something you have to maintain okay uh if you have a product from let's say 10 years ago and it was using like MySQL 5.7 still now like you've had to you have to upgrade because like now it's fully Past end of life like you you've skipped every other upgrade you're now at the far end of life things are going to start breaking your providers are going to probably start charging you more money just for you to still have it

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    on know on their service so these are things now you have to consider so now you have to say okay I have to go back I have to update it if I don't update it it's gone right it's gone forever or maybe hopefully somebody copied it again the PDF approach isn't great yes it puts the onus on the student but again like those can be faked there's just all the different issues now where it's not as prop L verifiable and that's really

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    again the part I want to get across here so now I have those two things and so we have I'm going put here upkeep too right upkeep now the other side of this though that I think again is like again we we're going super simple here we're just replacing one part of this I can still have all of my records and everything else in this database I can have my users I can still do my authentication

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    system I'm not saying you have to change that you can do your authentication system through the blockchain absolutely like that's absolutely something that you can do there's great tutorials all over we have some great stuff in our docs down below um if you go to there about using it as an authentic authentication system great opportunities there but something as simple as for the certification for the class record if I

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    go on chain we'll call it a b chain right so I'm my blockchain it's a one time right so it is a onetime fee for that data it's probably pretty cheap because it's just data about like people completion whatever else it is now composable so now a lot of pressure to spell correctly on on air uh and now other people can build on top of it and is verifiable verifiable right and it's uh I guess it's proof which is the same same thing right those Sy synonyms here but you now

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    have verifiable data and you have proof and I apologize we can't my handwriting but um you get the idea that's why I'm talking through uh but now so now you've simply replaced that piece of it you now have a much more robust product you now have something that you can feel good about that you know my students data is going to be available to them the course completion stuff if I were to expand if I were to partner right I can easily say

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    hey you want to see if this person actually completed something here you go you can just query the chain and it's done and that's like where again I think this is just a super simple way of doing this and you don't have to even include like users getting wallets right like the whole part of like oh I don't want to say the word crypto in my stuff I don't want to have to get things people

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    to have to uh sign up for a new wallet you eliminate all of that it's all right here okay so let's let's continue on here that's starting simple okay now kind of already mentioned it right but let's talk a little bit about cost scalability I want to go I want to go I want I want to talk about I guess two sides of this one is the perception of what blockchain is today the perception of blockchain today might be expensive slow whatever else

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    that is an older Paradigm I think we all know where that comes from ethereum but now on near on other chains like salana sui whatever else um they they are much more inexpensive they are much faster it is much closer to real time yes it's not quite the speed of a read write database that you can get but there are ways to make it feel pretty close and you are pretty close for most like user example most situations like it's there right

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    you can do this stuff so I think that is a big piece of all of this now if we were to actually think about how this fits into our infrastructure again I've maybe eliminated some monthly costs in this example of of my educational course but maybe you know maybe that there's other places that we can start to consider as well so let's think about something that's a little bit bigger here but I

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    think we'll hopefully Drive the point home okay I'm going to use the example of uh and if you're wondering I I took notes and everything very diligent today insurance claims okay so let's use insurance insurance is something if you've ever had to go through Insurance claim it is a nightmare um it is frustrating for probably all parties the insurance side of it and again and then more importantly the end user you who has

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    maybe had an accident or making a claim of some sort on your insurance and now you have to go through that now here's where it gets interesting and here's where I think if you look at the bigger picture and you start to see how these products actually fit into this and how you start to think about again blockchain as infrastructure and how this starts to scale okay so let's think about what in Insurance setup and insurance product would actually look

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    like without blockchain current how kind of how it is today one everything is a manual claim and take okay you could solve that in just normal like Web Two stuff like I think there are some apps that are pretty decent now different products I don't know how it is in some other countries but you know where I live like there are some things that make it at least a little bit more

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    simpler where I can maybe take pictures with my smartphone you and kind of go from there the other side of it though is there's a ton of human intervention a ton of it uh part of it is on purpose to maybe slow things down but the other side of it is just that like there is a big issue around like fraud checks and review and really verifying what that claim is now here's the thing where you can

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    start to see some combination of stuff you we know AI is going to come and start doing some of this stuff AI if it's not already is going to start reviewing your pictures is going to start you know going through that claim that process again if it's not already doing that and giving feedback on it the challenge there though is how do I know even if I even if I don't want to show it to the person making the

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    claim if I'm the insurance company I just at least want it for myself I need verifiable proof of how that all went through so that there's a great paper it came out from the uh Founders here at near about you know proof of response and some of the proof around the AI That's a piece of it the other side of it too is then writing some of those outcomes on chain so that becomes essentially fact right that kind of starts to build into that and then you

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    can start to have your smart contracts built around that where it's maybe okay this is a clean claim whether it's human or AI verify doesn't matter who it is now I can actually have that claim done and now it is verified and the payout can happen on chain automatically without any other intervention and it could even be then done in pieces again with minimizing human intervention right what if it is

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    something like okay you'll get your first part when you submit your receipt for whatever else you get the next part and what you've done is yes you've eliminated some human intervention hopefully not eliminating too many jobs at the same time those jobs right now of those things are just not the best use of maybe those employees time whatever that's separate C we're than that but

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    again Lower staff costs happier users hopefully because they're getting their stuff processed faster more efficiently the the followup again for fraud cases makes it much more clear no more sifting through tons of records everything is there if somebody was jumping from insurance company to insurance company you would have all of that available uh so this is all stuff that goes into there so that's one part of

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    it but now again if if you think about what happens here is what about like when that insurance company goes under what happens when you know there is some other incident that comes up and I need to be able to have all of that proof available of what went on in that interaction how do I prove that how do we get out of the you know who said what when all of them that's where this starts to solve that so contract dispute right or claim dispute is simplified right all of this

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    stuff is there and again for the product Builder so the one who's building the insurance side of that the product it's now again these are singular cost the data retention not only is it better it is cheaper in the long term okay uh maybe even in the short term it is decentralized so now again things get bought out people are you know uh insurance companies maybe go bankrupt whatever it might be it's still there you know are you're not worried about all of that stuff you can still kind of

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    go back to do that and I want to go back to again the efficiency and the cost here of everything go back to the education piece here again I can eliminate some of my stuff I can start to eliminate some of my databases maybe all of my databases by doing this it's a simpli I'm simplifying my cost here what if and again let's get we could get real crazy here right hold on a piece of

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    paper what if it's set up like this right so I have a login and my login is actually to to a web 3 account right so we're going to say I have a near account but actually it's really just a pass key okay or maybe just whatever it's my email doesn't matter what it is but because of near account extraction easy right so I have that that becomes my login for my course right so we're we're going to stick with the course here I'm going to show you how

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    we're going to tie this back into my other examples here I have that right so now this account is now also tied to my course which then leads to my certificate right certificate right of all right so now I have that all right so I graduate I pass I have my certificate okay so now this Prov proof this login essentially because again it's on the same chain uh could then maybe be tied into something like my

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    insurance can't see that into and again I I this is just a hypothetical example um I understand many people have very poor things to say about insurance companies I probably do too but um I just want to show this as a highlighting example I can log into to my maybe in my insurance company as well now maybe that certificate was something that maybe was for me to lower my my cost of insurance maybe it's a driving course right that's that's a

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    thing right especially younger drivers right maybe I I went through I did that my insurance company can verify on chain in seconds milliseconds really that I completed that course there can be an actual smart contract in between here that does that verification which then leads to a lower rate which can be executed directly off of that instantly right my I make a claim my claim can all

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    then feed into that as well these are all the things that if you step back and you start to think about your product in in a whole different format of saying look I want this to actually be able to to be more composable I want to be able to do that now again on near what's really I think pretty a cool setup is because of the chain abstraction chain signatures that data can live on another blockchain so you're not like just tied to like oh everything has to like one blockchain has to win everything has to

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    be on there nope it doesn't have to be that way you can actually have it where it's now set up in a much different setup of being something like again uh my maybe my near account right is for my education course my insurance compan is using a different chain but my near account can go check that other chain I can still log in all stuff but really as the end user I have no idea that any of this is crypto or blockchain because I'm

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    just using my email and a pass key and that is so much more simple to implement uh it is safer right it is a much better setup for that end user and as a developer if you've ever built a fully robust authentication system you know how much of a pain in the asset is now there's tons that are like Plug and Play Now The Challenge I I will say with plug andplay stuff as you probably already know is that you are now again beholden to somebody else's code you are now

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    beholden to something else that is going on with that so I don't love that approach as a developer so I think that is something that is really key to all of this stuff and again here where's my happened to my pointer here it is here I'll we'll highlight this a little bit better so if my login allows me to get to my course into my insurance there's so much more interaction that I can do and it makes

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    again my My Life as a de developer and that's what we're focused on here so much easier okay let's try out the next thing here and this is the the next topic security and trust and we've already kind of talked about that a bit but I I want to I want to jump into another build case another usage example of all of this that I think is like it just another way to drive this home okay

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    so the message here I want to get across on security and trust and why I think for me as a developer putting certain things into the blockchain and leveraging blockchain related technology get with smart contracts account model whatever it might be is actually a way to have safer experiences for your end users okay I mean it's literally built for data integrity and T proof logs

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    literally what it's built for so here's let's look at an example here of data leaks okay so data leaks cost Millions to big companies cost Millions to users probably billions at this point right things like that compliance if you've ever had to work on a product that involves some form of compliance uh I feel for you it is not fun uh it is very time consuming it is hard work and it is something that uh you feel like you never get right and you probably there probably is no

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    perfect system on top of all of that we're in an age now that users are wanting to understand more and have better transparency to what is happening with their data what is actually going on with all of that so let's let's let's look at this example here I wrote out Healthcare data now again little tricky subject here um but let's just again this is a hypothetical it's not perfect but without a blockchain there's

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    a couple things that are available here that become potentially problematic but also if you depending on your health care system and again I I have some you know different biases related to being uh in America but wherever you might be it's probably fairly similar except for a few places you centralized medical records one easy breach Target sure uh but two good luck having multiple places

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    leverage those same records okay I know for myself for every place I've been where I've moved across different parts of the country things like that uh it is recordss all over the place it's it's impossible to have a complete view or you're trying to have things moved um I actually I know for a fact that um more recently I had to have records mov for one of my kids and they used a fax machine that's right a fax machine that's happening so insane stuff but

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    whatever but now what if again now we're talking we're we're making some assumptions around around like how the data is stored and encryption and things like that so like but we're not going to get into all that okay we could with a blockchain there we can have logs of access and changes right we can know who actually modified something I can go in and check I can verify for myself oh this doctor actually went in and put this in I can have control over that data and

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    be able to share it that's something you could build on chain that you could could actually go and uh have allow your end users Right End have your patients own those access keys and be able to share with other doctors other hospitals things like that auditing those records like literally takes minutes I mean versus days weeks whatever it might be so that piece of it as well right uh you certainly can improve Hippa

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    that way uh you know or gdpr or whatever other privacy records you might have across you know in your country wherever you may live uh for the user the trust between a provider and the patient should go up because because here's the thing I now know exactly what you have access to I can see it you can I've let you see it I can restrict access it it it becomes a so such a different product when you are

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    empowering your end user again you could build this as a web two thing but I I want to continue to harp on and and and we're seeing this more and more that these companies are now you know they're consolidating they're being sold your data is now who knows where uh like the big one uh the 23 and me with the DNA testing like if you've done that and your data is there and still there

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    it's like you I they're going bankrupt who knows what they're going to do with that data it just becomes a scenario where you as the end user as the patient no longer have control this re gives you control but as a product Builder this is actually a better experience for everybody because it takes some onus off of you and your compliance the compliance that you have to build in it improves that as well so couple key things there

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    again the way someone explained it to me once in talking to different people seally in the healthcare industry is something like this would actually be like Version Control for truth right once it's written I know it so once it's been presented by a particular doctor in the record it's there and we're great okay um couple of things here too and and this is some notes I really wanted to highlight to when we talk

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    about again security and trust it's not just about like preventing hacks because we can continue to get better at that stuff but it's really about again your entire product one of the things I've tried to highlight on this show here devhub live over the you know past year or so when we've been doing this is showing products and talking to builders that you have to think of your end users right it really has to be

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    about them because even if you're solving a problem that you think is important the end users have to feel that benefit and the benefit for them is knowing that the data is trustworthy that they can share their data right and then they can actually you know feel confident of like it's in a safe place and it's not going to just get bought it's not going to disappear right I mean like what I mean there's all these different things that

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    go in there uh and again the thing of like who changed what that log of like who's made changes is it's just it's just huge right so these are all pieces that I think are really important let's talk about the developer experience so okay there are tons of things here that we can actually do that I think are uh really simplifying things nowadays there are a ton of sdks out there and I'm going to use near as the example right so just on near alone for smart contracts right we have rust we

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    have Js we have python okay we have you know we we we'll call them uh I guess like API type of SD PKS right you have in JS you could start to build them easily you know in any of these different things right you just have to connect to an RPC and you can build it so you can build whatever you want you're just connecting to that you can run your own infrastructure easily I would say most chains uh now have a fairly

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    straightforward way to run a lot of your own stuff if you want to uh but there's also Services out there that you can pay um but the difference here is if I pay for a service okay so if I pay for a service like maybe see an RPC provider and they go down they go out of business whatever uh I am not losing any of my stuff I'm just going to switch providers I'm going to spin up my own

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    server I am no longer beholden to somebody else controlling my product I might have an outage because of that which is frustrating and maybe a poor experience for your users but I'm not beholden to that so from a developer experience I think that's really pretty great I also think that and to get up and running there are so many different ways to do this really quickly to deploy a smart contract on near really can be

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    minutes you can have something pretty robust in like an hour right so like I could go from you know just even like a python let's see a python SDK to a full-on Smart contract you know which then whatever like my you know then I then have my say I have a forell app okay that then connects to that smart contract to do something and this is all I could you probably get that up in a

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    couple hours and I can now do an MVP really pretty quickly and alls I've paid for is pretty much nothing it's my time right maybe depending if this is test net or main net maybe then I have to pay for that right so let's say right let's say this cost this could cost a little right let's say it cost like to near right to to do that it's five bucks my for sale I have a free account right so now I've made an MVP for five bucks and yeah like

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    this free stuff like on AWS everything else like that but as soon as you try to scale as soon as you have to go up right the price just balloons we're here a contract yes as I add more data to it it will it will start to cost me more but depending again on how I'm storing my data what I'm doing these are things these are onetime costs I'm not occurring them monthly so even if one month I have $100 of data I have to

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    store on my smart contract that's it it's there I've spent it I no longer have to worry about spending it again the next month so these are important considerations when we think about what that all looks like now a couple different notes I wanted to get across as I was thinking this through here about what this developer experience really is about right is that something like and I'm going to use the example of like Fast near faser has

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    done a nice job of opening up apis to allow you to instantly get started with querying the chain and getting data from the chain and so now like I don't I don't have to build out my whole API structure I am just have to think about the logic as a developer just trying to think through the logic is such a different experience I again and I know like AI helping get more code out

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    faster but I I I will tell you as someone who's been building for a long time now and is using these AI products it really comes down to the thoughtfulness of of understanding your logic how it's going to work that user interaction and when you can spend more time on that you're going to get a better product so yeah maybe maybe your AI could build out your all your apis but instead of having to do that and

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    worry about connecting to a database maintaining a database all that other stuff that we went through you we can also just actually focus on that enduser experience and say okay I'm trusting all this logic to be on chain and that's kind of how I can go here's the thing this works whether you're in a team whether you are Solo whatever it might be you start to have all of that stuff and you start to really introduce user own own data all the stuff we've talked about so far

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    right whether it's my insurance example it's sideways my insurance example my my education example whatever that might be all of these different pieces not over my whole table over here uh I'm getting too excited is what goes into a really great developer experience so what where do we go from here how do we get started okay so down below it's been streaming the whole time is the

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    docs for both near as a whole and near AI really easy ways to get started I'm going to actually here let me pull up I'm going to actually pull up so you guys can see how easy it is to get started I want to share my screen okay we need to change our view here to all right I've added that to the stage and let's just go okay so here is the near docs just for the regular blockchain stuff uh easy ways to get started here look you can drive into what contract everything we

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    just talked about right building smart contracts what goes into it deploying the security of it all of that stuff right uh and then from there again yeah you can you don't have to even go through all this you want to understand the protocol sure great you can do that but you don't have to go through all of that what I can see here though is again whatever language I want JavaScript Russ

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    python whatever that looks like I can go through and I can set let my contract be up and running and it's super simple to get started from this there is some tutorials here that you can go through that I would encourage you to definitely check out and see and they're great examples again of what does it look like to actually do some of this stuff what does it look like to store you know my logging on chain my infrastructure if

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    I'm going to do my coffee example right what does that start to look like how do I start to build that that all out okay so this I really again I I want to emphasize that you can get started super fast it's really easy it's really straightforward uh I want to end let's end on on here okay so definitely definitely um come reach out to us here at your devhub near Dev um ask questions

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    in the chat uh sign up for our newsletter uh we're going to continue these type of discussions and go through it uh I really hope uh anyone watching this you got a good sense of how this actually fits in and again I want to be clear of what this message was building on blockchain does not have to be the whole thing building on blockchain can be something that is very focused on a particular piece of what you're building it offers a lot of great

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     opportunities for you as a developer to get started that maybe you didn't have or maybe you have available to you but are more complicated the idea here is to simplify things it is to provide better ownership to your end users it is to make the experience for you as the developer and for the end user to have more trust in the product that they are interacting with now more than ever in the time of

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     the internet and apps and and applications and software do we need to start to emphasize more of this and the blockchain gives the opportunity to do that the ability to be permissionless the ability to be transparent the ability to actually have a great user experience without having to maintain some centralized service that's going to both put added stress and time and money on you you can still do this leveraging blockchain it does not have to just be

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     about nfts or meme coins or anything else it can actually be about quality products that are leveraging this as a technology it's not a solution looking for a problem you are actually solving problems or imp improving experience forget solving problems improving experience for your end users through this I hope you learn something uh I hope this Sparks some more discussion I definitely want to do this more uh because I think these are good things for people to go over next week we will

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     have uh we will have a guest back maybe we'll see uh but we have a lot of great stuff though coming around uh if on our newsletter a lot of different things happen happening in the near ecosystem around building uh especially around near Ai and things like that uh we're going to have some more AI uh guest here on as well uh follow up from our previous guest you know there's been a lot of great stuff happening definitely go back and check out our previous episodes see what's been what they've been building uh and just kind of going

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     from there again please reach out uh we're always here to help come join us in our discussion on telegram uh we're always happy to have new developers and we're happy to answer questions of how this looks like that uh I appreciate you coming listening to me kind of go on about this uh it's something that I think is important for developers to really reinforce for themselves hopefully spread the message to other

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     people and for web to developers if you are new to this this is your first exposure I hope you got to experience what it actually means to Leverage The blockchain versus just again probably what you've maybe heard in the previous times but until next week uh I really appreciate again everyone coming on I'm Joe and I will see you next week byebye