DevHub Live 30 - Developer News Rewind

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   Hello. Hello. Welcome back to another edition of DevHub Live. We are back together, Owen. It's been a while since we've actually been on the same episode. How are you doing? I'm good. It's It's good to see you finally after how long has it been? Must be like a month or so since we're on this together. Yeah. Yeah. I did a couple by myself.

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   You did one by yourself. And so, yeah, it's been been a little bit. But since then, you are a hackathon winner. which is exciting. Uh, and also too, uh, are you back in Merry Old England or are you still on the road? Yeah, I'm in this I'm in a new room as you might be able to see. Just upgraded my chair. That's the old horrible one, but I heard that this chair increases death rail efficiency by There you go. Cir 30%.

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   So nice. Yeah, we nice nice nice new setup ready to awesome hard again. That's the spirit. Uh, so there's been so much happening in the near ecosystem that I thought it would be great to kind of level set a little bit and go over some news from the past few weeks and take the time to really digest what's happening because for one, I mean, you know this very well because you're actually writing the newsletter, but uh there's been just a lot of stuff coming

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   out quickly, especially because of Redacted. Yeah. that I feel like is not really getting across to people. And so we're going to talk a little bit about that today. And then um you know, as always, if people as people are watching, if they have questions, they're always more than welcome to submit a question. Um comment on any whatever stream you're watching this on, you can submit a

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   question and uh if it's reasonable besides like token price, so we will maybe answer it and go from there. Uh but yeah, sound good. Sounds good. Yeah, with the the newsletter, I noticed that we had to push items back and back after redacted because there's just so much news there.

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   So, yeah, a lot has come out recently. Um, and it's definitely good to to look back and not forget all the updates. Yeah, definitely. Let me resize this a bit so there we go. So this was the newsletter from two weeks ago. I think this is a good place to maybe start.

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   So coming out of redacted the message is near as the blockchain for AI and there's four key parts that go to this and I thought you listed them out pretty well here. Right. So userowned intense. Well, I literally stole that from your slides, right? I thought he put it pretty well.

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   So yeah, I just implanted it there. Perfect. So So it's coming from the top top dog here, right? So coming down and we see that you know these four things including the chartered blockchain really help solidify that and the message around near AI for getting started right now seems to be about building agents. Is that your sentiment too?

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    Well, I think it's multiple things. Um, and I think not just like if you go back up to those four points. I was considering adding another point along those lines and but it's quite represented nicely by this image here is that there's not just like specific things that have been building out to aid this mission that are um listed there as like what what near ecosystem nodes are doing but it's also becoming

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    the ecosystem for AI and I I I think we're introducing and seeing a lot of providers and infrastructure as you can see in this graph. Well, uh diagram there's there's a bunch of providers here and applications. And the more AI projects and products there are inside the ecosystem, I think the easiest the easier it becomes to build an AI product yourself. Like we've heard this term

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    data is the new oil tossed around a load. And I think that's especially prevalent here with all these like scrapers and and whatever um providing data and other tools. It just makes it a ton easier to build your agent here on there. And then like above, you can just broadcast your transaction to nearly whatever chain with like chain signatures. The chain can handle it because it's sharded and

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    scalable. Um, and we're introducing like intense system. So you can I guess say you want something doing it and then a solver and that solver being an agent can come and fulfill that request and complete that transaction for you. So we're really seeing it come together here.

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    Yeah, great point. Yeah, the the provider ecosystem is often glossed over. It's not something that it doesn't it's not a sexy thing, right? It's just like, okay, like infrastructure never really gains those news headlines, but as more come in to the ecosystem, the ability for developers to be more creative and actually kind of start to try different things really opens up for them as well. Yeah, 100%.

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    Um, so let's, so right off the bat, so, uh, Near AI is releasing the ability to actually make your your own agents on top of it. Uh, Pierre did a workshop, uh, I actually talked about it on the live stream. Uh, I think it was last week or, two weeks ago, uh, yeah, two weeks ago now. um about, you know, just kind of going through what he did and he showed off uh how it could render pages in real time and all this really cool stuff. And I really think that this is something that

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    hopefully people start to understand that it is not just a like chat GPT wrapper. The idea here is not just about like we're leveraging AI models to do mundane tasks. This is actually you can start to really think further outside of box like you said this infrastructure coming in allows you to be a little more creative and so Pier started to show that which I think this was a a decent

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    doc a decent presentation of getting started here. Yeah. And I think we're seeing a lot of these agents become really quite specialized. Um in a lot of the agent explorers at the moment tend to be you search like hey I want to have this I want to interact with a DAO.

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    So I find the DAO agent or I want to swap some token or I want to do some non cryptoreated thing. I want to file my taxes or whatever. I'm really interested to see these all sort of come together in a an agent explorer where you have like a a more generalized wrapper that will navigate you to the correct agent and then that executes for you. So you don't even have to think, hey, what's what's the best agent for this task? It just handles it all for you.

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    Yeah, great great point there. And that kind of leads into a little bit of like what the next story was here of Near AI assistant and like what that actually looks like. Um, I don't know if you feel talk about I'll put it on the screen here, but this was kind of something that was a little bit new here as well for near and I know people have tried to do it before too, but let me see.

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    Um, and I if I'm remembering correctly, I think the the the AI assistant was meant to be somewhat of like a a showcase of what you can do with these agents you're building and like the sort of alpha agent or whatever you want to call it.

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    And yeah, there's some interesting interesting features. I remember like it it saved chat chat history. So I think an example was showing it would remember like your favorite color or something and then you can loop it in and well you could see at the bottom you can connect your near wallet. So you can actually perform tasks for you cuz a lot of models at the moment you just it just tells you information but it won't do

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    much actually for you. But especially with crypto and AI, we're seeing, hey, I can give my agent access to my bank or well, essentially my bank with my wallet and it can do financial actions for me. Yeah, great point. Yeah, and you know, I haven't played around with this too much, but again, yeah, they demoed this a bit. Uh, this is something that you can try yourselves right now. And yeah, the idea here is like uh right, it's the agent to control other agents and like

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    leverage other stuff. And uh again, as a user experience, the idea here hopefully is that like you're not if everyone's making all these specialized agents, they can then pull them together and actually orchestrate them in different ways. So, uh good experiment and good stuff checking out there.

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    Yeah. Yeah. And I think this ties well into um like the the agent payments that I know a few teams like Never Mind are working on um and where you'll see there being more complex and larger tasks where it will need multiple um different agents. So you can really see like where agent payments is going to be coming in because you'll be leveraging like multiple agents. So they'll be passing like finances from from each other to

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    perform these tasks and maybe even pay for its usage. Yeah, absolutely. Couple other quick stories. Uh Omni Bridge. Uh I think the best bet is actually just to watch Bowen talk about it. Um he's going to explain it better than I think either one of us is going to. Uh but the idea I mean again like we talk about chain abstraction and chain signatures and when you look at what this two look like having a provider

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    there that is actually supporting the things like like I hear like the actual rushing transactions not just sending signatures is an important piece and this infrastructure really is critical to I think chain abstraction being recognized as a a viable path for products where some right now I feel like it's just experimenting but now these are the type of stuff that gets you going to maybe get to production.

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    Yeah, I think the omni brbridge is really quite interesting and I see it more as like a a sort of like a UX tool as in I don't believe it's that much of like a product itself but more like a wrapper around different interoperability solutions mainly chain signatures and then other like light clients and message passing protocols um And I know that they're building an SDK out for that. Um, and I'll be interested to see like well I'm building my own app and it lives on. So I'll be interested

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    to see how I can use Omni Bridge to facilitate payments um into my app from whatever chain you're on. Right. Yeah. And that's that's going to be interesting. And that's something that is highly undervalued I think a lot of times when you're trying to evaluate an ecosystem to build on that you need these this type of tooling available to you and these type of SDKs because otherwise what happens and again I'm sure this is stuff that you guys in your own project have thought about is like well how much

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    of this am I going to build myself if I want to access this or maybe part of it's like well we're not going to offer this feature because we would have to build so much infrastructure. When you have this available to you, it changes the whole perception of how you then think about your product because now you can focus on outcomes versus the infrastructure piece itself.

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    Yeah. And I think I I'll let you take the explanation on this next one because when I was writing this piece, well, I had to message you guys what what is going on here and I know you like you're quite experienced with validator node.

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    So I'd like to hear more from you on that. Yeah, the central states think is a really exciting and I guess exciting kind of quotes. really like exciting but I get and the concept of like a validation and especially around like how validators work now and how you set one up. So first off the way validators go work is that you have to start from a place where you are matched up to the rest of the network. So if you come online and you're a new validator,

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    usually you start with like a snapshot from a certain point in time and then the validator needs to catch up. So the snapshot usually is within a few hours of where you're starting because otherwise it's too far out. It's going to take too long to catch up.

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    Well, this takes a little different approach and it's kind of like the for lack of a better example like a bit torrent kind of model where it's peer-to-peer. So it can start to actually sync from your peers directly and have uh all the synchronization come from what's on the network. Uh this does a couple different things. One, it speeds up the time for you to match up with the network. It takes the pressure off of having to have um a snapshot that

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    is going to be in the right window. And this happens to sometimes the people. So let's say the snapshots's every six hours. If your system takes too long to download that snapshot and then try to again catch up, you're like in this like loop of like always trying to catch up.

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    So if you that's where sometimes people get thrown off a little bit. This would start to eliminate all of that. So now do that where I think this is probably long-term and again I'm just speculating but now as you bring in more kind of uh lighter weight nodes right for just like state validation and things like that that you don't have to um hold all of this history either because now you can kind of confirm with the other nodes that you know everybody's in

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    sync everybody can agree And so it's a little bit different aspect of how that goes. So it just opens up more possibilities when you don't have to have this uh heavyweight thing to just get started. Yeah, that makes sense. Um yeah, there's it seems to be a few benefits that I wonder like what the downsides of it whether like is it difficult to implement or or like what is the drawback to to this?

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    I got to imagine implementation is probably difficult. Um, you know, definitely, you know, I I don't know the like the peer-to-peer protocol super well, but I I would have to imagine that part of the hangup would also be that like everyone still has to be sending the same packets of information correctly. And so I don't know how that works if there is a bad actor in the middle there um on your network. So, I'm sure this is all stuff

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    that Bone and his team think deeply about and have solved for. I just I don't know. Yeah, let's leave it to them. Yeah, I I I just don't off top my head, but those are probably considerations they have to have. Yeah. uh illusion of speed was the next thing and this is a great presentation and I uh as someone who is a developer but really focuses a lot on product uh I love this talk because this is the stuff that was like right in the wheelhouse I

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    think of a lot of devs and they don't even realize it of like you know web 3 has had this issue of feeling slow not being able to catch up to what web 2 experience feels like uh there are errors and issues that come up for an average user. They would have no idea what's happening and this talk was really great because it addresses a few different ways of one solving for that.

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    But two, I just like the theme of it of saying like, hey, how do you start to think a little outside of what is there by default in web 3? Yeah, I think this was a really interesting talk. Um, and like it's I feel like it's somewhat like fake it till you make it in terms of the speed. um because some like interesting trickery is going in on in the front end because there's a limit to how quick you can make the

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    blockchain and how quick you can process these transactions. So I think in here there's really some interesting ideas of how you can make it quicker and really improve the UX. Um, and I know that like from this talk, um, as dev rails, we're going to be implementing like these, we're looking to implement these standards across our examples and have these as like the best practices to go

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    to um, so we can provide like better user experience. Um, and I know go ahead. I say I I think the secret though here is that like maybe people don't realize is that like this actually comes from a lot of web two stuff like web two sometimes also feels fast because a lot of this stuff is actually like natively already implemented into things that they're doing like yes you are not like when you have a centralized service yes writing to a SQL database is

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    so much faster like I get like that's 100% true but at the same time there are a lot of things that a lot of apps that you use that are using the same kind of tactics to make the experience feel faster. The difference here is that on web 2 and centralized services your what you can make is something that is deterministic that you say okay I know this outcome is going to happen as I if I do x y and z is not always the case on web 3. there's some stuff that is maybe

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    a little bit more variable at times and so that's where uh I think it's a little bit tougher and it's been something where people haven't gotten to that point but like what do you mean by what what do you mean by like like nondeterministic sort of so so so many transactions so like when you're using a different app like let's say you're using like a like like a food delivery app or whatever else like there are things that are happening absolutely in the background ground without you

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    knowing that are probably pushing things along faster than like for your user experience than is actually really happening on the back end. Um that could be including um like like payment transaction checking payment things. It could be something as simple as uh verifying something that is in stock or out of stock whatever that might be. and the app and the or the the website will keep pushing you along and giving you different feedback uh accordingly, but where you feel like

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    you're progressing still. You don't feel like you're waiting on something else. And so that stuff has been in web 2 for a while. And now in web three, you're starting to see more of that start to come to play with the stuff like in this talk where um you know Eugene is talking about saying here like hey you can auto retry transactions without prompting the user again right like just do it like it just have it happen and that's the little stuff that makes a difference because if you know the out expected

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    outcome you can just push that stuff along that kind of thing. Yeah. And I feel like it's sort of like, you know, how we can view blocks like final and optimistic. I feel like this is like s super optimistic view. Um that you're presenting the front end before it's executed. I think that's interesting. And I've seen uh the result of like when these things like when you see something happen

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    optimistically but it's not act actually executed. Like the other day I was booking my hotel for redacted and uh it was like hey yeah you've got this place and then I I had like my payment taken and the hotel was just not available anymore. Uh so I I think it's interesting when these things don't go as you expect them to.

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    So, I think handling that will be uh interesting. But I know what is really nice to this is that they're building out a whole ass like SDK. So, it's easier. You don't have to think how do I do this? I'm not Eugene. I cannot figure out how to do this. Well, you should just be able to call some API or SDK or whatever.

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    Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah. I mean and that's again this is all the stuff for devs that like this tooling is here available and so this shouldn't hopefully this feels less intimidating over time um for everyone as they see this stuff come through important to highlight all these talks are all on the near protocol YouTube channel um every single talk from redacted is there uh you can go back and watch through all of

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    them there's some really interesting stuff across each part of it uh I learned a lot of different things just myself of going through and watching some of it. And there's even some good little demos in there as well. So, check them out.

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    Yeah, I really liked putting the newsletter together over the last few weeks because it gave me an excuse to like go watch these talks and and add them to the newsletter. So, it was great to like you always end up just talking to people at Redact at these events instead of going and watching the talk. So time to to look over and see what great things are happening. Totally. Totally.

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    Um rooster jobs is whatever you know I think that's fairly self-explanatory. We talked a little bit about the AI assistant. Um intense uh intense now. So this was kind of previewed at redacted. Um this was a little bit about this is actually kind of coming live with some more stuff and more tangible things. in the next week or so. Uh, intents are again something that fits into that AI

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    agent stack really well. Uh, and a lot of them right now are all focused on on def DeFi. Uh, here we can let me pull up actual blogite. I mean, how would you simplify that? I mean, I guess what an intent actually is. Well, for I talked about it a little earlier, but for me, an intent is you just say what you want to happen and then something makes it happen. Like you have intents and then you have solvers.

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    So I can say that I want to swap well swap is the easy case going back to DeFi here but I want to swap near for uh USDC on well we can we can go chain specific so let's say USDC on arbitum um but I don't know the path to make that happen um because I could go to I could bridge like Salana and then bridge to Polygon and then get to arbitrum or I can go some 500 different paths and it's

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    sort of like what is that algorithm called Dystra's shortest path or something but it's like the cheapest path so you have all these solvers come in saying hey I have this solution for you and what is the cheapest of those solutions um I can just have it like autopicked for me. Um, yeah, I I would say that's how I would go ahead and explain.

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    Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a Yeah, it's going to be interesting again, I think, to see what comes there. And it's opportunity for people where again like if you don't want to build agents like there's other things you can build in AI that fit into this. If you want to build the intent layer, you want to add to that, if you want to build solvers, like those are there's so much that to be built and wherever like people feel comfortable, I think there's

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    opportunities for people to jump in there for sure. Yeah. And I don't think like intent is a pretty key thing in um in AI. However, it's not limited to AI. So the presentation and the product that is using this diff to fuse is I don't believe has an AI element to it but they are you they're the first use case on there of using intent where the solvers are just like uh companies or or people

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    coming along and solving it for you instead of an agent. Yeah. Uh and and and I believe right now that with diffuse and near intense that it's being implemented sort of like inside of the contract, but intense as a whole is like becoming available to the protocol to sort of streamline things and make it easier to implement.

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    Yeah. So that'll be exciting. And with like when chain signatures came along, there was a whole new like paradigm and and shift of thinking how you create applications and I'm excited to see like what paradigm shift and applica like when how do you now think again of how you're building an application with intents?

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    Oh yeah, absolutely. I I this all of this stuff and that's why I think this was for me as a developer like I really want to get across to people like this is opening so many doors like coming into web 3 previously has really been somewhat restrictive of like what paths you want to take and now it's really opening up to all the like supposed use cases that people were talking about a couple years ago like crypto will be great for X. Like now you can actually start to build on top of that and now

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    you start to really start to consider what that looks like. So it's going to be really interesting to see what happens. And I I I don't think we need to go through all the parts here because I want to go to the next newsletter, but um you know I think this quote actually kind of sums it up is just that like you know there's going to be a lot of attention token price aside because of all these different things that are are happening. Um AI is very popular in the general zeitgeist of

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    technology and you're starting to see that uh crypto is embracing it really well because there are things that crypto can do you know smartly with AI that was not possible before. So it is going to be a very interesting 12 months here. Yeah absolutely.

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    Let's let's jump to the most recent one here. Um, and I think uh a lot of cool stuff coming out of here. Um, let's right off the bat is like what Keep POM is doing. Um, let me actually open this up because um there's a lot to this for onboarding.

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    Yeah. And if you don't know, um, well, maybe, yeah, we can take a look at this and then maybe even try it out for ourselves. Live demo. Should we should we give it a go? Yeah. So, basically, uh, if you you may not have heard of maybe either one. Let's say you've we'll just assume that maybe you've heard at least of maybe uh Fast Off one time before, but Fast Off essentially was a way to use your email to sign up for a

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    near wallet and it was fairly streamlined because then you could just kind of log in. Um, key pom is essentially expanding upon that, but actually taking it a step further. Uh, and you can actually start to use multiple chains and they're using NPCs and everything else. So, here let's actually let me Yeah. And I think it's really interesting how this is working because instead of having like a sort of account, you have like this account object. Yeah. Well, this account

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    on on the blockchain and you're directly interacting through that by like signing with your private key that you have somewhere, whether that be in a wallet or your ledger or whatever. Yeah, this is sort of operating where there's to to my understanding that there's one contract and this contract is verifying signatures or verifying to like or tokens or verifying ZK proofs that you own like an email or

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    you you own a Discord or you own whatever maybe even uh like your national identity and this is verifying it and from there we know that a an account and a contract can derive like a near infinite amount of its own accounts. So you're sort of having this like proxy contract which then gives you access to your own account based upon whatever uh verification you're you're doing there. Um yeah, and

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    it's not just like we can do it with near accounts, but it can also be like whatever account, right? Uh or whatever. Shane, just verifying in a near contract. Yeah, to totally here. Let's click Google. So, you can't see it because way my screen is being shared, but it gave me the normal Google popup um to pick my account. I'll pick my account.

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    See, continue. It's actually just waiting on Google. Google's the one that's actually holding up and um yeah, all of like each transaction you're sending here is is being rooted via the MPC. So at the moment it's very reliant upon the MPC and its speed. So there we go.

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    So I I sign in. I hit my Google account. Uh they gave me this new wallet. All right. So I can say hello. Hello. So when I went to sign it, it has not prompted me anywhere off screen. And yeah, it will take a fair bit of time because it's relying on the the speed of the NPC. Yeah.

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    Um, but I know their their true mission is like to stick with the NPC and because they know or at least we all hope that the NPC is going to to speed up and you can just do a transaction in like I don't know two seconds or or something.

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    Yeah, it's also the test net version too. So like yeah, I I think right now it's taking Well, this one's a bit longer, but on average it's like 10 to 15 seconds, which it's um interesting because we like improve UX on one X one one point and then it diminishes it at another.

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    Yeah. Yeah, it's a definitely a a balance back and forth a little bit here. Well, oh, this is we'll give this another second live demos. But it's really cool how we didn't like we don't have any seed phrase or whatever associated with this account.

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    No, we just logged into one here. Um, but like that being said, we have private keys for a reason and that's because they're safe and we have wallets for a reason in Spain because they're safe and and non-custodial. So, um, I I know in their road map is to have like an offboarding or or onboarding experience to a wallet after you've you've played around with like a a trial account. I don't think this is meant to be. No. Yeah.

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    I think it's like they're going for incremental steps of self custody with this. All right. Well, we get the idea. But it logged me in, which is great. Um, they're doing this. It's a great conversation here if you go look at the tweet. Um, and he has all the different information here in their GitHub as well, too. So, definitely check that out.

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    Um, you know, some other great stuff. Uh, you get you just had Sandy and Calro on last week talking about privacy. They just released private Dows. Um, anything reference there? Um, well, if you want to learn more, watch last week's episode. But in summary, blockchain by default not private if you implement Calamro or some other privacy protocol, then you can have like private data and not expose everything on chain.

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    But I know how this DA is working is like the proposals and the voting is sort of happening. Um privately but then when the outcome is settled whether the proposal was successful or or not successful. Well, taking the success case like some payment or function call will be be made and then that will be like public because it's settled on the chain, right?

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    Yeah. No, great. I mean, and and this is I, you know, I feel like we're beating dead horse a little bit here, but this is all this stuff that again, I I hope people are starting to see these connections of like, hey, I'm if I'm going to start building there all these different opportunities here to be creative and things that maybe were concerns of yours of like, hey, I need extra privacy here. Well, these things are here, you know, and like these tools

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    are available and so you can start building. Yeah. There. Um Jane obstruction abstraction slime uh who uh is just constantly building all the time. Uh you know released a new repo containing a service that indexes transactions in different chains.

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    Uh gets the transaction hash by the signature. It was definitely great for chain signatures. Uh click through to it. We can certainly get to that. Well, I don't think they'll link it works here. Yeah, but uh um but yeah, this is this is interesting and it's all along I know there's a few efforts on this along the lines of mapping transactions. Um Oh, you found it. There we go. mapping transactions to like MPC

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    transactions to the actual transaction on the on the destination chain. Uh we can we can see an example here with the um the I don't know what you call it uh the like the explorer links down below. Yep. Connect point. Let's look.

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    Yep. So it then connects back to what that is. Then you can see okay so this transaction linked to this one led to this. There you go. So it's it's infrastructure. It's not like a full website. Um, but again, I mean, this is useful for when you need to start pulling that stuff in and someone can build on top of this that can allow you to uh implement maybe a whole front end, things like that. So,

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    yeah, definely good stuff here. I did not actually see this. I need to know more. Blockchain in a text file. What is this about? Well, to be honest, I don't particularly know myself. And Vlad Frol suggested this uh piece as well, and I went, what exactly is this about? and he was like, I don't exactly know either. But it was a really interesting video and I think sort of like a a thought experiment of how we

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    can understand blockchains and this this guy talks about like a a different type of blockchain and then goes about adding like the whole of the near blockchain into a text file. Um, I wonder if he succeeded in that yet. Interesting.

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    But yeah, it's if you're trying to like think out the box about blockchains as a whole, I suppose, then this is an interesting one to to look at. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is like one of those experiments, right? just like let let me just try try something different and let me I'll just show the better page here like here we go.

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    Yeah, it's mainly just linking to a to a video here. Interesting. No, there you go. Oh, cloud cloud action. Nice. Okay. Interesting. And so he's just trying to pull all this data in into one thing. All the transactions. Yeah, it's kind of impressive how he was able to do a lot of this within 8 minutes and how I I see he uses multiple different AI tools here. Yeah.

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    How your your development speed can just like 100x with these tools. Yeah, that that's almost like the the more interesting part here is like you know trying how do I solve a problem now? It's like okay I can solve this by you know leveraging all the different AI tools I can really start to experiment. Um and yeah this is a great like great little showcase of problem solving and going through that.

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    I I'll have to go back and actually watch this whole eight minutes. Very cool. Yeah, it's an interesting watch. Talk about the Yeah, that's we always give a run through of the biggest items the previous week. Yeah. Uh at the bottom, you did share this video and I I did think this was actually a a good video to kind of end on. uh really talking about you know ways chain abstraction gets can be used

90. 44:55

    and here let me here you can see it um this is a pretty this this is a strong group here that really talking about like what it means to actually build a chain of traction how it actually gets leveraged uh so much stuff right now is talk about hypothetically and we have some people in this group here who actually leverage leveraging it and talking about how to use it. So, uh it's not too long. It's less than 30 minutes or 20 minutes here. Uh I definitely would encourage people to just listen to this discussion and get a

91. 45:29

    little better sense of like what chain abraction is and can be. Uh if they're not really sure right now, it's a good practical overview. Yeah. And I know a lot of these chain abstraction products are like still building because to be honest like a lot of the products have not been done before and it's quite a big undertaking. So, it will take a while for these to launch, but I don't think I'm yet prepared for when the all

92. 46:04

    these products do launch. And it'll be amazing like what we're going to have available to us. Um, you had apparently a ninja on stage as well. So, this is some outfit. I had to say the anonymity. This is like Yeah, it's classic crypto and on That's great. It's like it's one of these things. It's like I I understand it completely. Especially like we're doing like DeFi. Like I I understand, but at the same time like if you tried to explain this to other people who are

93. 46:37

    outside of it, it's like listen I I went to this conference and like like look at the rest of the stage, right? Hold on. You know, here I go. Like it just like it's so hard like people just don't even believe you. you're just like, "What do you mean somebody was wearing a mask?" And you know, I think we I think we live in a a completely different universe. And uh one of the things I do love about the ecosystem and

94. 47:07

    the like web 3 that we work in is a lot of it can be unserious and fun. Like we all have stupid profile pictures and Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And you just you just don't see this this elsewhere. So, it's a good place to be.

95. 47:27

    Yeah. Oh, it's definitely funny. I mean, you know, like you you have all this stuff, right? Especially like all your your meetings probably have like your, you know, your like web three profile pick and then all of a sudden now you got to go to like a parent teacher conference and you log in and some stupid PFP showing up. You know, it's like all right.

96. 47:46

    Is that from a personal story? Absolutely. Absolutely. I had to or like last last night I had to my daughter had a uh a team meeting over uh meetings or whatever you know Google meet whatever and yeah like I everyone has like either on camera or has like just no profile pick I have my dog thing you know like my dog avatar on there and people like who's this just it happened it happened yeah I've had a few times joining calls and like

97. 48:22

    more professional people messaging me and it's just my well I've changed it now to the black dragon profile pick but that big orange cat all right it's not even worth explaining it's just like whatever like just we'll just move on yeah uh well I think it's good listen I think it's an exciting time to be building uh in web 3 I think the science time is building near uh there's a lot of opportunities uh while thing while AI is

98. 48:57

    a heavy focus on mirror uh hopefully people are seeing there are a lot of opportunities to build different things that maybe AI can leverage um it is not simply just building agents there are other things that are needed that go into it and as always uh we list in our our email all the different resources to get started uh We encourage people to do that. At the bottom, if you haven't

99. 49:21

    signed up for the newsletter already, it is there. Uh Owen does a great job every single week curating the news that is relevant. Uh and it's important because we are all builders who are providing back. So, we understand what is needed, necessary. Uh we are actively building projects here on the network as well.

100. 49:40

     We're not just shilling something or whatever else. We are actually doing what we say. Yeah. I don't think you can you can be a dev rail unless you're you're building something in the ecosystem that that you're shilling so much.

101. 49:58

     Totally. Totally. Nice. Uh well, great. Uh next week, uh we actually have a a fun episode coming up. So, we brought back kind of a modified version of some of our bounty matching. So we did some we did a a bounty matching thing for hackathons earlier in the year uh with minimal success with that. Um but we we brought it back a little bit and we're not matching all bounties but we are looking at something that

102. 50:28

     uh people who are building in the ecosystem that especially with like bits and things like that if you are uh getting a bounty from different places we are open to possibly matching them. So we can we're not promising anything, but uh we think it's a great opportunity for developers to come in and and be rewarded for the work they're doing.

103. 50:51

     There's also uh great things coming from Horizon to better re reward developers who are building here regularly and contributing regularly as well. Uh so we'll have more information on that. But next week we have our first new bounty uh recipient coming on talk about the what they built on bid day. It's a DAO agent. We're going to demo the agent.

104. 51:13

     We're talk about the bounty program, all that stuff. So, that's next week, Devub. Uh all through the rest of December, uh we'll trying to get more devs to come on and talk about some of the different experiences, kind of go from there. And then we will be bringing back more workshops as well, uh just like we did for the redacted hackathon.

105. 51:36

     So, lots of good stuff still ahead. Uh, any last words, Owen? Anything you want to end on here? Not particularly. I've been I was on the town hall previously, so I've done enough talking today. Yeah, enough enough screen video. I get it.

106. 51:56

     Nice. Well, uh, this was good. Uh, I I like seeing and reviewing everything, too. It's good for myself, too, to make sure I'm on top of all the news. Uh, but thanks everyone for joining us. As always, please follow along and we will see you same time. Well, we start a little late today, but normal time uh next week. Uh take care. Bye now.

107. 52:16

     Byebye.