{"id":"Ufe-dvqNBHE","title":"Application Chains vs. Dapps","description":"Illia Polosukhin is an ICPC finalist and has more than 10 years of industry experience, including 3 years at Google where he was a major TensorFlow contributor and a manager of the team building question answering capabilities for the core Google search.\n\nIn this presentation, Illia covers the difference between application chains and dapp chains in context of security, performance, economics, development speed and use cases.","channel_name":"NEAR Protocol","published_at":"2019-08-19T00:00:00.000Z","thumbnail_url":"https://img.youtube.com/vi/Ufe-dvqNBHE/hqdefault.jpg","transcript_text":"I understand this part of it I realize that they can extend more Google collects more data I also have worked on intensive flow which is one of the open source projects at Google right now probably the biggest gifts how I starts so pretty much to contribute there so I'll just kind of keep moving because it's been a little time but so new protocol is pretty much a smart contract blockchain and the idea is to go into structure where every developer and actually building on vacation right you don't need to be like a blockchain developer now study for four months to actually write their first more contract and as you do that right as you like get closer to that developers want to build applications you kind of realize you also want users right so your protocol is public experience scalability is just a part of it right if you want to get a lot of users you need to pass scalable applications now I'm not gonna show to my chair protocol so if you want to learn more how that actually works we have a ton of YouTube medias which explain exactly in step today because we're in Feb 3 and you know there's a lot of talk about fire chains and you know separate app chains I want to talk about how to actually application chains and D apps compare right why would you run the application chambers idea so who's your like to fund it was DF give me more participation come on guys here are the blockchain conference so so to compare with like application chain right this is something where you have a one specific chain run for just one specific application right like I decided hey I have this mega idea I'm gonna go and start my own blockchain right and usually there's like two ways you can do it one is you can start a summer change so usually cosmos is like an SDK to do that new span of course mr. DK is gonna change boom on your own grades you know not saying moves but pops entire thing now there's actually affect security right so this is where like coconut but offering is is a shared security where instead of you building up your own security of your system you can rely on the shared security and kind of don't need to spend as much time with that so lovely actually is very similar to this where the shared security needs to see you so if you think the mid plus was about 14 to 15 you nice now when you're building your own change you actually need to figure out your own playground right because if you think of it you actually need to get valid as an but producers perspective is fading and watching and I'll get more into this usually you will not write the code from scratch right so you will be suffocating cosmoses begin few others and yes you need this ohlbrecht economic sense now so let's start with Excel security and I'm not looking about the economic security I'm talking about real life breaking stuff you know hacking it's everything when you're building a D app right it executes cinavia Eva's room for EVM for the CEO it's been assembly for a new blockchain near point o cetera edge where and what the next thing gives you is actually gives you ability to write code that might not be that secure because if you're writing an app chain you actually write in writing native code and if you messed up anywhere this actually will explode all your notes and can compromise the system or your validators so this is pretty scary now double says because it's a VM we actually have major increment of gas which measures how much usage has this application capped and cuts it off as soon as write forgot to write again when you're writing an app chain you don't have to so you actually need to edit manually manually how much or you can have transactions that make you gigabytes of space and of RAM in your own intelligent again trashy or validators and if you have one of the consensus is that actually smashes for offline is the greatest way to get a bunch of people / I won't go now again when you watching your app team you relying on the stack right relying on the substrate on a cosmos SDK now yes there's great guys building it and you know they are watching experience they do know about security that have securities of you but you are taking the risk so when you launching that chain you actually taking the risk of running is watching and full spectrum networking - Krypto - consensus - you app code although this is owned by you if there is an issue because there is about is a security vulnerability it's on you to fix it it's something you to maintain there's just a few running of that on CD on you know name a protocol obviously here then just due to risk that you have is just you're out of cover right so you seen it just do a security review you do your to yours for happily for application Karen you don't need to make sure that the stack is working right because there's multiple people already rely on the same stack and it's the same exact code runs in every now right so this is a difference because like the new writing for example software the cosmos actually running a different versions of what running on the chain finance writing a tone you're running it so like maybe there's a bug me you better fix something it didn't tell you and now knows about the tactic and everything you don't know all right so let's go to performance that's where app chains actually went right not not everything is so so dim so I've changed like what main benefit is actually get right like you find running my own application and I really believe that performance is a key of of this application right you get the full performance right there's no other transactions happening there's no and limitations to what you do at the end does have an overhead right so EVM is relatively slow understand these faster but still slow so like you do remove this boundary the interesting thing is that you kind of need to optimize your own code guys you need to make sure that you did not gonna stop myself anywhere and visit Deb you actually can rely a little bit on protocol kind of continuously improving in like adding you know maybe I started in the maybe figuring out better tricks to speed it up so this is kind of like interesting thing now specifically in shuttered blockchains which is what near is let me see if I know is a few other block chains what's interesting now is that you don't actually an application and not sharing the team with everybody it only shares with other applications with its charge now we're seem to point out it's hard to say right now because we don't actually know exactly what the design is for like phase one as they call it but for example for near one of the things we're doing is what we call dynamic Charlotte this idea that you actually reallocate applications to shards depending on usage so if your application specifically it's a full startup performance right you actually are cryptic it is like knocking it out as barf you know millions of users playing through the gates meeting them you know it's a defeating the kitty heaven you actually can get the food performance of a shark like we'll just move out every other application into other sharks than ever so that's kind of the idea that I started up like charter block teams are actually very different from like oh I think that what changes aluminum capacity like he's a big boy right now again you can learn a lot more I'm going to go to much of it now economics was very interesting right so you're running your own blog change like let's say imagine where the hackathon you gonna be king man you like okay I'm gonna build a boxing let's start with you know writing some code being it up and Jenny like well I need my own that team so I need some blog change that or useless right so I need something as you care about the blockchain reduce blocks and Oh validates and collective action tool this would work now I should need to pay some something right so I need my coat now I need my talkin I need to actually build up the query different starting right because this validators actually have expenses in dollars so that she need to go it sells stuff except work so he actually need to go and figure out its change this is like not even about two anymore the part of it is if you pretty much paying them for running a fool chain right like you actually pays them exactly how much a validator would spend plus some margin on writing and running a full chain so if you're not using the food chain right if your application actually uses only 10% of the troop look up the chain actually over beam that's kind of that's how this so if you think of like the apps the payment that's done is only pays for the amount that is being used so here's the plan myoga this is a new pen application chain it's kind of like a dedicated hardware right it's expensive to buy you set it up you can figure you spend like a lot of doubts time to figure it out but you get a lot of performance improvements with it or you can just ship you out to cloud get it to work scale it up you know it's fast and easy and you pay for how much you get right so there's like obviously trade-offs here but it definitely allows it to kind of quickly start with the S and one thing that's you know forgets was a shared executing actually needs to win an auction on for example a polka dot right so there's only like limited number of slots for a bar change if you want to have a shared security actually need to getting of that which can be pretty fun pretty much now one thing that people really liked was a separate change especially like a Cosmo separate change summer chain is not like not depending on anybody's cover news so which seems like a good idea right you don't want to Japan with more stuff now the problems here startled is that well when you watch it you actually need to have governance at work because if you don't have it working that and won't be able to upgrade to something now that's yeah versus to admit you played the app right you can start was like hey I'm gonna say what the app does people don't like it this way they can use it later when I actually make it more the sex website so you can start like vibrating the app itself and maybe switching to at the committee and that may be sufficient go down just like you look at owners or whatever with blockchain your enemies like starts with something that's pretty advanced already you could not just say like hey I'll have a key that will upgrade all those in the block can produce blocks right because it actually has an access to their machines throughout so they will not go free and one if you have suspect security right you actually depend on the governance was a change so if you have a pause plan you casino right you see your governance can pick you up and can modify this thing same was bolted on what kind of dominance can kick you out of this from the chain so there's like yes there's flexibility but if you do want shared security you do need to pay for it but in the governance and then they're interesting point is right now there's like content a little bit bus of actual validators professional validators on the market so it was a double approval stake if you watch can you chain chances are all of your validators are valid as opposed to have a chance so if you think of it a this method of Cosmos validating my flow and I'm trying to do something that for example carts cosmos what is their decision-making going to be if they're an investing in the cosmos right like they are like this is governance off like validators right sometime and like plugging holders so if you have already like all kinds of translation because it's the same people actually don't have submission commands for Christmas that's just something now the last part I wanted to mention is development speed if you think of it the speed of deploying right like with taps if you're using some of the motor block chains which have like online fe and helpful tooling the first app you can deploy 15 seconds and then they can quickly iterate you know upgrades that kind of figure out whether it works deployment get the get some user feedback you know launch an application maybe build part by part and then if it's a cap chain awesome successors are great in one day you can actually launch your own watching which is written for but it's still slow and you actually need to like good or go figure out how it works you know and launches a big event because you need to aligned on the blood producers exchanges bullets integration as you know well the partnership to make sure your chain is actually successful so it's just a very different level of involvement that you need to do so in general like that we're kind of emphasize that app chains are very well suited for like infrastructure focused on teachers rights and if you need to modify consensus if you need to create some way to storage of something else that's a great like use kiss the excess also because if you think of it that's is something that doesn't want to share the scruples anybody else right as soon as somebody else even makes the transaction he actually is starting to lose like the sun shining so temperatures versus Baptists where we actually won the applications right versus gaming d5 a goal kind of feel supply chain health care what kind of tracking things open that which we believe like a way to decentralize internet yeah now if you do disagree with me please tell me because like I'm writing a blog post and I want some feedback on this that's why this is pretty good traversal so but yes this is pretty much my talk if you wonder learn more about here so we have our online ID where you can launch your back in 15 seconds you can join our beta program so help you build that that's and you know there's some incentives within depth the master program and we have validators take words coming up and also just to kind of continue showing we have whiteboard series where we actually talked is almost like a lot of major watching particles from atheneum 2.0 Kolkata to cosmos to plasma etc where we actually have varied apps how exactly they work what are the models etcetera so it's really cool our investors say we do due diligence for them and we can do questions later but yeah follow me without me they're wrong","transcript_synced_at":"2026-11-04T04:28:49.305Z","segments":[{"start_seconds":0,"text":"I understand this part of it I realize that they can extend more Google collects more data I also have worked on","url":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufe-dvqNBHE&t=0s"},{"start_seconds":8,"text":"intensive flow which is one of the open source projects at Google right now probably the biggest gifts how I starts","url":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufe-dvqNBHE&t=8s"},{"start_seconds":18,"text":"so pretty much to contribute there so 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